As NTSB says derailed NYC train was going 82 mph, queries rise about anti-crash technology

YONKERS, N.Y. (AP) — The National Transportation Safety Board says right now, it doesn't know whether faulty brakes or human error caused Sunday's derailment of a New York City train that killed four people and injured more than 60.

But NTSB member Earl Weener says information from the train's two data recorders shows the train was going 82 mph on a turn when it should have been going no more than 30 mph.

In addition to the NTSB probe, the New York Police Department is conducting its own investigation with assistance from the Bronx district attorney's office in the event the derailment becomes a criminal case.

Some safety experts say the tragedy might not have happened if Metro-North had what's called positive train control technology. Metro-North is working on it. But, like many rail lines, Metro-North has advocated for extending a 2015 deadline to implement the costly and complicated system.

Meanwhile, Metro-North has been providing bus service between Yonkers and the subway terminal at 242nd Street as repair work continues at the site of the derailment.

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031-w-33-(Warren Levinson, AP correspondent, with Earl Weener, National Transportation Safety Board member)--Did a mechanical failure or operator error cause the train derailment that killed four in New York? Safety investigators have questions. AP correspondent Warren Levinson reports. (3 Dec 2013)

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047-a-14-(Earl Weener (WAY'-nur), National Transportation Safety Board member, at news conference Monday)-"very late in the game"-National Transportation Safety Board member Earl Weener says the engine was still getting power just before the crash. (3 Dec 2013)

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049-a-10-(Senator Richard Blumenthal, D- Conn., at news conference Monday)-"way too fast"-Connecticut Senator Richard Blumenthal says at 82 miles an hour, the train was over the speed limit even before it hit the curve. (3 Dec 2013)

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048-a-11-(Senator Charles Schumer, D- NY, at news conference Monday)-"short time before"-New York Senator Charles Schumer says if the brakes failed, it was a very recent failure. (3 Dec 2013)

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046-a-07-(Earl Weener (WAY'-nur), National Transportation Safety Board member, at news conference Monday)-"have been conducted"-National Transportation Safety Board member Earl Weener would not disclose what the train engineer has told investigators. (3 Dec 2013)

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129-a-13-(Marnie Adams, Metro-North commuter, in AP interview)-"a little scary (second reference)"-Sunday's fatal derailment on a Metro-North train is on the mind of commuters up the line, like Marnie Adams in Hastings-on-Hudson. (3 Dec 2013)

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APPHOTO NYYE356: FOR USE AS DESIRED, YEAR END PHOTOS - FILE - First responders work the scene of a derailment of a Metro-North passenger train in the Bronx borough of New York Sunday, Dec. 1, 2013. The train derailed on a curved section of track in the Bronx, coming to rest just inches from the water and causing multiple fatalities and dozens of injuries, authorities said. Metropolitan Transportation Authority police say the train derailed near the Spuyten Duyvil station. (AP Photo/Craig Ruttle, File) (2 Dec 2013)

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APPHOTO NYYE357: FOR USE AS DESIRED, YEAR END PHOTOS - FILE - A Metro-North passenger train lays on it's side after derailing in the Bronx borough of New York, Sunday, Dec. 1, 2013. The train derailed on a curved section of track in the Bronx, coming to rest just inches from the water and causing multiple fatalities and dozens of injuries, authorities said. Metropolitan Transportation Authority police say the train derailed near the Spuyten Duyvil station. (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan, File) (2 Dec 2013)

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APPHOTO NYML105: Officials look at the damaged tracks, Monday, Dec. 2, 2013 in the Bronx borough of New York where a train derailed on Sunday, killing 4 people and injuring about 60. A second data recorder was retrieved Monday from the train involved in a deadly derailment, and investigators planned interviews with the engineer and conductor in their search for the cause of the crash. On the left are a passenger car and locomotive which were part of the derailed train. (AP Photo/Mark Lennihan) (2 Dec 2013)

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