As the news of the Navy Yard shooting broke and images flashed on the television, Obetz Police Chief Ken Hinkle was watching.
"I sat down and I said, not again," said Hinkle.
Hinkle prepares people to encounter situations like the Navy Yard shooting.
He's also a national trainer for ALICE, a crisis response program.
Kindergarten teacher Jordan Martin just attended one Sunday.
"The next day after I took this training, now, all of a sudden, it's just so real," said Martin.
The program simulates different situations and arms participants with the knowledge of how to counter them; not the traditional lockdown and wait theory.
"I'm not going to get there in time. When these instances are over, they're over in three to five minutes," Hinkle said.
"Knowing what to do is a lot more beneficial than sitting and waiting like a fish in a barrel," said Martin.
"We teach barricade techniques on how to harden the room that you're in," Hinkle said. "We teach evacuation. You need to take actions that will save your life."
That includes countering or distracting the attacker if they get in the room.
No one wants to find out how they'd react in a situation like the Navy Yard shooting but Martin says she feels better prepared should it happen.
"I would rather reduce the threat to me and 26 kids instead of just sit there and wait for them to come and get me," said Hinkle.